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Hi, My DH is looking at the Cozmore. I was wondering if anyone here uses one of the newer models, and if so what they love about it, and what problems if any, or any functions you'd add, ect...

We met with the rep a few weeks ago. She made the food list sound like it was the first and only, and I dunno. I just felt like she was a very smooth talker. I was the one that dealt with the reps when Julia got her pump.Shane watched the videos with me, and gave his input that he liked the Animas for her because of the small doses, and basal rates, and so did I. I really liked the Cozmore, too. However now I wonder if I liked it because I didn't know as much about the pump. Some of the stuff that lady was trying to sell as original wasn't, in fact most of it is like the other pumps, but with different names. She also spent too much time down talking the other two companies, which I don't like. I really want to hear about the pump that I am looking at, not the reps opinion of the others. But at the same time if it really is a wonderful pump then I don't want him to miss out, but we were both really turned off by the sales tactics....

Thanks for any input. Jamie


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Jamie, I so hate it when a salesperson uses those tactics!!!  It has turned me against certain products through the years.  If I were in your shoes (DUH! my feet are size 12.  OH well!) I would choose the Animas for Shane.  Both of you are so familiar with the Animas.  The small dosages may not be needed by him but it would be a smoother start since he knows that pump so well.

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 JellyBeans.....When a company down talks another company, I would of personally left!  I don't go for that.  Explaining is one thing....down grating is another.  That to me is a very high pressured sales person who works on commission!  That is OK Richard, my son wears a 13 1/2 shoe and is 6'5"! He is nearing 25 and finally stopped growing!  CLINK! - Paula


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Jellybeans I do use the cozmore and I like it. My favorite part is that it has a BG monitor attached to ti so I don't have to carry a separate BG monitor. That is really what sold me on it.
I had a similar experience with another company you had. except this company was very very pushy with me and did not like it that I chose cozmore. In fact they practically made an appointment with my doctor for me when I hadn't even talked to my doctor myself yet. I had just called to get some info on pumping and that was it. I hadn't made a decision  if I was even going to try pumping yet.  I probably will never consider that co. in the future either.
I love my cozmore. But I don't have any others to compare it with seeing this is my first pump. I have recently been upgraded and I do like the new features it has, such as being able to disconnect for up to two hours without losing any insulin. It tells me how much basal I will miss and I can bolus 50% before I disconnect and how much to bolus after I reconnect, up to 100% of what is left of the missed basal. I also like the meal maker. It makes figuring how many carbs I had and how much meal bolus I need automatically. I like those features.
I hope this helps some.
How old is your little one that will be using the pump?

  Terry Lee
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Hiya all,

I'm not a pumper but I have had a sales background. I have to agree with all the comments and admit that sadly, they're all true. In the computer stores where I worked they had "spiffs" -- extra bonuses added to your paycheck for each one of the "hot item of the week" you happened to sell -- I happened to know several salespersons whose "learned opinions" about various pieces of hardware changed depending on what brands offered the most 'spiffage' that particular week. In fact, I knew one salesman that I think would have sold his own mother down the river if he could have gotten a big enough spiff out of the deal. (Grrrrr!)

If I were in this decision making process I would eliminate the Cozmore solely on the basis of the salesperson's tactics -- antics like that get me to run, not walk in the other direction. I don't care how good that unit is -- if it's as good as the salesperson would have you believe, it should sell *itself* without all those hi-pressure tactics.

Again, I'm not a pumper, but if you're familiar with the Animas it seems like the way to go. The concept of "latest and greatest" doesn't always work... "tried and true" seems to be more reliable in my experience.




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gb! At a retail store our sons friend works at, he installs though, if the sales people don't make a quota....they are fired.  I was always wondering why the huge turn over. I would contact the office and let them know how you feel JellyBean.  Yes, gb, a product sales its self.  Sounds fishy too! CLINK! - Paula


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Hi Jamie,
I teach the Animas pump, but all do a wonderful job.  You can't go wrong.  The salesman has little to do with you once you sign up.  The pump is a fabulous tool - most people love their pumps, regardless of the brand.
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GB I agree with Janis. I must add though it was not deltec that slammed the other co. for me. It was the pressure the other co. put on me that burned me up! They did not slam anybody but the pressure they put on me to buy their pump even if I wasn't sure I was ready I checked out the other options and I chose the cozmore because it was what I WANTED! not because they told me it was the one they said I wanted. My diabetes nurse even got accused of selling out to Deltec and she had nothing to do with my decision. I really felt bad about that.  But I am not sorry I chose the Cozmore with the attached BG monitor. I still love it and still feel I made a good decision for me. Sometimes I feel that sales persons think we are DUMB! I have been in party sales myself, but I never wanted to intimidate people to buy my products. The merchandise actually sold itself.
 Well I guess that is all I have to say about that subject. I know there are a lot of good pumps out there and all of them have their good points. They all do there job. Right? So for those of you who may be considering a pump good hunting. I would like to suggest that you do your research online and from those with experience.

 Terry Lee
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Terrylee --

As I said in my post (at least once) I'm NOT a pumper. At least right now.

The only thing I was weighing in on was the sales tactics... and I guess I got a little carried away with my post.

My apologies... the *last* thing I want to do is create animosity or hurt feelings here (or anywhere else, for that matter).

Chastisment received... I shall be more careful in future.

Peace,

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I understand and agree with what both of you are saying, Terry Lee and gb! I agree with Terry Lee about doing your own research and picking what's right for you (I avoid high-pressure sales situations whenever I can!), but by the same token, I've been so turned off by a salesperson's tactics that I wouldn't buy their product no matter what. I guess mainly you just can't count on someone who has a personal stake in the sale to give you the straight skinny, so do your homework!

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GB sorry I got a little carried away.
I just know the co. that I first contacted acted as if I had already chosen them. I was just wanting info on their pump. I was reseaching the idea and that was all. Actually they kind of scared me off from calling other co.s to request info. I was given a couple of brochure packets from my endo on The Deltec cozmore and another pump. I chose the Cozmore for the reason previously posted.
I did not mean to insinuate that you were wrong with how you feel. I came accross a little too strong and I appologise.
I do know I will in the future do my reasurch on line rather on the telephone.

 Love ya Terry Lee
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Hi All,
I posted this in another thread, but thought it might be helpful in the this area.  Here is a link to a great comparison chart of the different pumps:

http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_technology/insulin_pump_models.php

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TerryLee, I am not a pumper either, but I recently had an unhappy experience with a pump company representative.   She must have called my home four or five times in one day.  I finally got weary of answering the phone and just let the answering machine take the calls.  I also wanted information only, but I got a whole lot more.  At this point I am so confused as to which pump to look into or even if I should get a pump ... and that is providing my insurance company will help pay for one.  It is a big decision.  I wish you the best of luck.

Janis, Thank you for the link to compare pumps.  I'm sure it will be very helpful.

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 I must share this...dumb mistake.  Yes, having a good time yesterday I tested before we left, felt off, and was 109, and TIRED! Leaving the park my pump said low battery...OK, had my supplies, minus insulin -knew we would be home and figured I had 45 plus units left- changed battery....you guessed it, showed 0u!!!  I was somewhat freaked, for a lack of words. What was the problem?  Notice I didn't disconnect/rewind!  I was  when we got home and I dumped 3/4 that was left!! I know, calm down and focus!! Well, I get the DUMMY AWARD!  Good evening! CLINK! - Paula


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I have been pumping for 8 years and have had 2 different brand of pumps. I'm one of those people who doesn't care what brand. I injected insulin 40 years so any change was welcomed. I refer to my pump as my exterior Pancreas.

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